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Tune into the Concrete Pastures podcast today as we share challenges and success about everything from entertainment + cultural differences to overcoming language barriers and navigating the lottery system to secure gainful employment.


My goal as a dreamer is to save you time so that you can live a happier life with confidence that you are not alone leaving the country you were born into in search of a new home with us, as your guide to finding your own concrete pastures.


Mr Rodger Chali

“In 1998 when I left Zambia, the country had gone under some economic hardships so a lot of opportunities were disappearing for working in the mines. You had to have a Plan B and you had to be aggressive. I’m not going to see my family suffer so I will do everything I can do to take them to a safer place.”



Concrete Pastures: An African Immigrant Story is currently available on Youtube, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts and Spotify for your listening pleasure.

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